Wednesday, May 04, 2005
Support for the "iraqi resistance"
We read in La Vanguardia Foix's opinion about Iraq:
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Iraq installed in chaosOn the one hand, Foix talks about "exemplary democratic participation" in Iraq, on the the other hand he talks about a "constant dripping of victims" and "fiascos".... This double talk is typical of false pacifists. These false pacifists reluctantly and grudgingly recognize the obvious democratic advances in Iraq but, next, waste no time pointing out the dripping of deaths, failing to also tell us that these deaths are the handywork of the "iraqi resistance" they support and whose sure victory they augur...
LLUÍS FOX - 03/05/2005 - 22.02 hours
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Iraqis hope for better times. But they aren't here yet. The impulse of their exemplary democratic participation has vanished among ethnic disputes to obtain representation in the new government and, especially, because of the attacks that, dayly, cause victims among iraqis and foreign soldiers.
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The war that costed tenths of thousands of deaths was a fiasco, and the reconstruction of a country in which there is a constant dripping of victims is also a fiasco. The world's first power cannot base its hegemony on force alone, leaving the law out. [The U.S.] will probably lose and be forced to abandon the country as it did in Vietnam thirty years ago.
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Abu Ghraib and the war on terror
(See the original post in Spanish)
It is clear that the tortures of Abu Ghraib are a shame and should be punished. If we consider that the punishment is not enough, we can say so. That's what a democratic society is all about. However, there is a bottom line and it is that these tortures are being used by the enemies of democracy, starting with the jihadis, to make their propaganda. We can see terrorist Al Zawahiri denouncing the "American style of democracy". We can see those who are on the side of the head-choppers, in the web pages of Al Jazeera, of the ultra-leftists and the jihadi, rubbing their hands with images of Abu Ghraib. Yes, those who took part in the tortures ought to be punished. I cannot agree more. They have damaged the cause against terror.
However, the point, as the Belmont Club states, is a different one:
We cannot be selective in our rejection to tortures. These images are not exclusive of American or British soldiers in Iraq. There are similar images of soldiers of "pacifist" countries, opposed to the interevention in Iraq, such as Belgium orCanada, during the intervention in Somalia. If the issue is torture, Abu Ghraib is part of a wider phenomenon, soldiers' behavior in international conflicts. To focus solely on Abu Ghraib is to miss the issue and support a political agenda. In that case, we should bear in mind that after Abu Ghraib was revealed, there were elections that had the massive popular support of Iraqis. This did not happen in other contexts in which tortures were also denounced. Iraqis, in spite of the shameful tortures filtered to the press by American soldiers, support democracy in Iraq and condemn the "Iraqi resistance".
Belgian soldiers torturing Somalis (more information here).
Less famous images. Belgian soldiers torture their victims in blatant abuse of their privileged position as United Nations' "Blue Helmets", "Beasts of blue berets". These images have not circulated as much as Abu Ghraib's (neither, apparently, did they deserve Botero portraying them in his paintings). Why?
Several Canadian soldiers tortured and killed Somali prisioners (see it also here, with video included).
Prisioners of Bosnian Serbs. We can only see the results of malnutrition, abuse and humiliation, not the abuse in action....
All of these cases have received less international attention than Abu Ghraib. It is not surprising: US soldiers are not involved. And, of course, there are more tortures and executions such as those exerted by French soldiers in Algeria or byGerman prison guards between 2001 and 2004, or Killing camps in Bosnia.
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It is clear that the tortures of Abu Ghraib are a shame and should be punished. If we consider that the punishment is not enough, we can say so. That's what a democratic society is all about. However, there is a bottom line and it is that these tortures are being used by the enemies of democracy, starting with the jihadis, to make their propaganda. We can see terrorist Al Zawahiri denouncing the "American style of democracy". We can see those who are on the side of the head-choppers, in the web pages of Al Jazeera, of the ultra-leftists and the jihadi, rubbing their hands with images of Abu Ghraib. Yes, those who took part in the tortures ought to be punished. I cannot agree more. They have damaged the cause against terror.
However, the point, as the Belmont Club states, is a different one:
While it is important to punish everyone responsible for the outrages at Abu Ghraib, the only effective way to stop the corrupting influences of war is to achieve victory. Japanese tourists are welcome in Asia everywhere today because the Second World War ended in 1945. And if by contrast Palestinians hand out sweets whenever a Jewish orphanage and Old Folk's home is bombed it may be because the UN refugee camps there celebrated their 50th anniversary in 1998. If the outrages at Abu Ghraib hasten the end of war it will not have been in vain, but if they lead, as the Left most earnestly desires, to a Vietnam-like stalemate, it will be not the last but the first of many sad mileposts.Said it very clearly, Abu Ghraib tortures cannot be seen apart from the international war on terror. These images are used to give support to international yijad against democracy. The impression and rejection we can feel against these facts fall in the of false pacifists's propaganda, of those useful idiots (though increasingly less idiots and more concious supporters) of the jihadis. It ends up being a selective impression, only applicable to Abu Ghraib.
We cannot be selective in our rejection to tortures. These images are not exclusive of American or British soldiers in Iraq. There are similar images of soldiers of "pacifist" countries, opposed to the interevention in Iraq, such as Belgium orCanada, during the intervention in Somalia. If the issue is torture, Abu Ghraib is part of a wider phenomenon, soldiers' behavior in international conflicts. To focus solely on Abu Ghraib is to miss the issue and support a political agenda. In that case, we should bear in mind that after Abu Ghraib was revealed, there were elections that had the massive popular support of Iraqis. This did not happen in other contexts in which tortures were also denounced. Iraqis, in spite of the shameful tortures filtered to the press by American soldiers, support democracy in Iraq and condemn the "Iraqi resistance".
Belgian soldiers torturing Somalis (more information here).
Less famous images. Belgian soldiers torture their victims in blatant abuse of their privileged position as United Nations' "Blue Helmets", "Beasts of blue berets". These images have not circulated as much as Abu Ghraib's (neither, apparently, did they deserve Botero portraying them in his paintings). Why?
Several Canadian soldiers tortured and killed Somali prisioners (see it also here, with video included).
Prisioners of Bosnian Serbs. We can only see the results of malnutrition, abuse and humiliation, not the abuse in action....
All of these cases have received less international attention than Abu Ghraib. It is not surprising: US soldiers are not involved. And, of course, there are more tortures and executions such as those exerted by French soldiers in Algeria or byGerman prison guards between 2001 and 2004, or Killing camps in Bosnia.
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Spanish defense minister would rather be killed than kill
We can read it in El Periódico:
Bono with Rumsfeldt
Shark Tale: the story of a vegetarian shark
Bono, Felipe Gonzalez self-decorated protegé, would rather be killed than kill. The problem is, Bono, that terrorists are listening.
Speak for yourself and only for yourself ..... but wait until you are no longer defense minister.......
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"I'D RATHER BE KILLED THAN KILL"This is the guy responsible for defending us from jihadi terrorists. He's more concerned with the righteousness of his conduct than with defending the citizens that, surely, do not share his personal preference...
To illustrate his argument, Bono states: "I'd rather be killed than kill; it's a moral conviction.
Bono with Rumsfeldt
Shark Tale: the story of a vegetarian shark
Bono, Felipe Gonzalez self-decorated protegé, would rather be killed than kill. The problem is, Bono, that terrorists are listening.
Speak for yourself and only for yourself ..... but wait until you are no longer defense minister.......
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